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27 November 2006 @ 08:46 pm
Passive and causitive verbs.

Type 1: -う+あれる [except true う verbs: -う+われる]
Type 2: -る+られる
Irregular: こられる, される


Direct passive: X is directly affected by Y

Indirect "suffering" passive: X is indirectly affected by Y, and is cranky about it. Even if inanimate object is involved, takes を, person affected is always は.

Type 1: -う+あせる [except true う verbs: -う+わせる]
Type 2: -る+させる
Irregular: こさせる, させる

Make-causitive: XはYをV-CAUSITIVE or XはYにOBJをV-CAUSITIVE if verb takes an object - X makes Y do something.

Let-causitive: XはYに/をV-CAUSITIVE-て+あげる/くれる/etc. - X lets/allows Y to do something.

Example sentences (okay, I'm totally copying forms from my grammar book here, this isn't quite something I can spontaneously generate on my own):

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darth_goferdarth_gofer on November 28th, 2006 03:27 am (UTC)
Thanks. I was wondering about that. But seriously...

How does one type kana on a western keyboard. I have the Japanese stuff installed in Firefox and Internet Explorer. Does that help?
Douglas Triggs: languagedoubt72 on November 28th, 2006 04:07 am (UTC)
Er, I'm assuming windows here (if it was a Mac, it'd be easy, but chances are you wouldn't be running IE if you were using a Mac. Only crazy people still use IE on a Mac. Plus, you wouldn't have had to install anything special to get it to work).

Anyway, fow windows, installing the Asian language support is a necessary start (which apparently you've done), but you also need to configure an IME (Input Method blah blah blah something or other). Which I did years ago and have since completely forgotten how I did it - I suggest fooling around with the "regional and language options" in the control panel. I don't think you need to install anything else -- but I may be wrong (as I said, I don't actually remember. Whenever I get a new Windows box, I'll figure it out again, but it was a bit of a pain the last time. If the control panel doesn't work, try googling "Windows Japanese IME" or something).

And then you need to figure out what the keyboard shortcuts are to switch input modes, or configure them to something you know -- by default, for the vanilla install (assuming you're using the same IME, which I believe was vanilla Microsoft), switching languages is ALT-Shift, and switching character sets (once you're in Japanese mode) is ALT-` (backquote).

Windows international support is vaguely crappy. You can configure it to be better (to a certain extent), but it's never really worked terribly smoothly for me (sometimes it just seems to completely ignore me the first few times when I try to change languages and such). These posts, at least, I do on a Mac (which is entirely because when I'm sitting in a coffee shop with my grammar books, that's the computer I always have with me for various other reasons. But even if I did have both, that'd still be the one I'd use).
asakiyumeasakiyume on November 28th, 2006 08:46 pm (UTC)
the meiwaku ukemi (suffering passive--sorry; I'm on the basement computer and can't do Japanese... that I know of) is one of my favorites...

I thought you'd like this giant malabar squirrel my lj friend deponti posted--it's on Flickr